{"id":101083,"date":"2009-06-23T23:16:28","date_gmt":"2009-06-23T23:16:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/transinfo.pl\/x\/infotram\/gdanski-dylemat-przetargowy-kto-i-kiedy-dostarczy-tramwaje\/"},"modified":"2009-06-23T23:16:28","modified_gmt":"2009-06-23T23:16:28","slug":"gdanski-dylemat-przetargowy-kto-i-kiedy-dostarczy-tramwaje","status":"publish","type":"infotram","link":"https:\/\/transinfo.pl\/x\/infotram\/gdanski-dylemat-przetargowy-kto-i-kiedy-dostarczy-tramwaje\/","title":{"rendered":"Gda\u0144ski dylemat przetargowy – kto i kiedy dostarczy tramwaje?"},"content":{"rendered":"
Wydawa\u0107 si\u0119 mog\u0142o, \u017ce w cieniu zamówienia na nowe tramwaje w Warszawie podobne post\u0119powanie przetargowe w Gda\u0144sku przejdzie bez wi\u0119kszego echa. Sta\u0142o si\u0119 jednak inaczej, w dniu 15 czerwca 2009 roku mia\u0142o miejsce otwarcie ofert. Wtedy to post\u0119powanie nabra\u0142o rumie\u0144ców. Miasto przeznaczy\u0142o na zakup tramwajów 277,55 miliona z\u0142otych brutto, co przy zakupie 35 pojazdów daje koszt jednostkowy 7,93 miliona brutto, netto kwota ta wynosi 227,5 miliona z\u0142otych, czyli 6,5 miliona z\u0142otych za tramwaj Jak wiadomo jest to bardzo niska kwota, bior\u0105c pod uwag\u0119, i\u017c stolica Pomorza chce kupi\u0107 tramwaje niskopod\u0142ogowe z klimatyzacj\u0105. Po spektakularnej pora\u017cce polityki zagranicznych koncernów, które znacznie zawy\u017caj\u0105c kwoty chcia\u0142y osi\u0105gn\u0105\u0107 bardziej korzystne warunki dla siebie (og\u0142oszenie przetargu w €), wyci\u0105gni\u0119to wnioski i zg\u0142oszone oferty maj\u0105 ju\u017c bli\u017csz\u0105 realnej warto\u015b\u0107. By\u0107 mo\u017ce w\u0142a\u015bnie dlatego, \u017ce oferty mo\u017cna by\u0142o sk\u0142ada\u0107 w €. Przeliczaj\u0105c na jeden tramwaj Stadler zaoferowa\u0142 9,186 miliona z\u0142otych netto, Bombardier 10,106 miliona z\u0142otych netto, AnsalodoBreda 10,348 miliona z\u0142otych netto, CAF 10,448 miliona z\u0142otych netto, natomiast oferta krajowej Pesy wynosi 8,729 miliona z\u0142otych brutto za tramwaj. Z post\u0119powania wycofa\u0142 si\u0119 natomiast Siemens. Wobec tego zosta\u0142o og\u0142oszone, \u017ce wszystkie oferty przekroczy\u0142y warto\u015b\u0107 przetargu, a post\u0119powanie zawis\u0142o w pró\u017cni…<\/div>\n
Porównanie ofert (przelicznik €4,4447), Pogrubione<\/strong> –warto\u015bci podane przez ZKM Gda\u0144sk<\/div>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
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Oferent<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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Brutto <\/div>\n
mln z\u0142 ( mln €)<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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Brutto za jeden tramwaj wmln z\u0142 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
Netto<\/div>\n
mln z\u0142 ( mln €)<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
Netto za jeden tramwaj w mln z\u0142<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
Zak\u0142adane przez ZKM Gda\u0144sk<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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277,55<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
7,93<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
227,5<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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6,5<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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Stadler<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
–<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
–<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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343,564<\/div>\n
(77,297)<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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9,816<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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Bombardier<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
–<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
–<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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353,735<\/div>\n
(79,585)<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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10,106<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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AnsaldoBreda<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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441,89<\/div>\n
(99,421)<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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12,62<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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362,211<\/div>\n
(81,492)<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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10,348<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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CAF<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
–<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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–<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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365,696<\/div>\n
(82,277)<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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10,448<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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Pesa<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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305,520<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
8,729<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
250,426<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
7,155<\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n
Jest to ju\u017c drugi przetarg w którym s\u0105 porównywane kwoty brutto i netto. Wynika to z faktu, \u017ce zagraniczni producenci s\u0105 zwolnieni z p\u0142acenia podatku w Polsce, natomiast krajowi musz\u0105 go odprowadzi\u0107, w wysoko\u015bci 22%. Jednak podatek ten przedsi\u0119biorstwa tramwajowe mog\u0105 odzyska\u0107, i z tego powodu porównywanie kwot netto dla wszystkich producentów jest zasadne. Gdy uwzgl\u0119dni si\u0119 ten czynnik kwota brutto, jak\u0105 przewidzia\u0142o ZKM Gda\u0144sk na zakup tramwaju mo\u017ce zosta\u0107 porównana z kwot\u0105 netto, jak\u0105 osi\u0105gnie si\u0119 po odzyskaniu podatku. Jest to wa\u017cna kwestia, poniewa\u017c ZKM Gda\u0144sk stoi teraz przed dylematem rozstrzygni\u0119cia tego przetargu. Nie ma w\u0105tpliwo\u015bci, \u017ce anuluj\u0105c post\u0119powanie nie uda si\u0119 zakupi\u0107 nowych tramwajów przed Euro 2012, podczas którego tramwaj ma by\u0107 g\u0142ównym \u015brodkiem transportu dowo\u017c\u0105cym kibiców. Dodatkowo w powtórzonym przetargu nie ma szans na uzyskanie ni\u017cszych cen, takie dzia\u0142anie mija si\u0119 zatem z celem. Pewn\u0105 opcj\u0105 jawi si\u0119 równie\u017c podwy\u017cszenie kwoty przeznaczonej na zakup, niestety jak zwykle sk\u0105d\u015b musia\u0142aby ona pochodzi\u0107. Wydaje si\u0119 zatem, \u017ce rozwi\u0105zaniem kompromisowym jest w\u0142a\u015bnie uznanie mo\u017cliwo\u015bci odliczenia podatku i w ten sposób rozstrzygni\u0119cie przetargu. Jaka opcja zostanie wybrana zobaczymy w najbli\u017cszym czasie.<\/div>\n
Poni\u017cej szczegó\u0142owo prezentujemy zestawienie poszczególnych ofert: <\/div>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
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ZKM Gda\u0144sk na zakup 35. tramwajów przeznaczy\u0142:<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
brutto<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
277 550 000<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
to daje netto<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
227 500 000<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto za jeden tramwaj<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
6 500 000<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
Kurs Euro<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
4,4447<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
Stadler<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
oferta netto<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
77 297 530<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
EUR<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto po przeliczeniu na PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
343 564 330<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto za jeden tramwaj<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
9 816 124<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
Bombardier<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
oferta netto<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
79 585 990<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
EUR<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto po przeliczeniu na PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
353 735 850<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto za jeden tramwaj<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
10 106 739<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
AnsaldoBreda<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
oferta brutto<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
99 421 253<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
EUR<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
81 492 830<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
EUR<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto po przeliczeniu na PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
362 211 182<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto za jeden tramwaj<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
10 348 891<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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CAF<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
oferta netto<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
82 277 000<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
EUR<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto po przeliczeniu na PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
365 696 582<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto za jeden tramwaj<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
10 448 474<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
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 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
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PESA Bydgoszcz SA<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
oferta brutto<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
305 520 696<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
250 426 800<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
\n
 <\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
netto za jeden tramwaj<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
7 155 051<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
PLN<\/strong><\/div>\n<\/td>\n
\n
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